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sts tonight. and remember if you can't say anything nice just say anything. does that make sense anymore? ♪ >> cenk: welcome back to "the young turks." it's good to be in l.a. was there a bounce from the convention? we'll tell you. there were definitely bear hugs and confrontations. >> there are a number of things that i like in health care reform that i'm going to put in place. >> cenk: all right. fun, i'll tell you what is going on in all of those clips, plus huge teacher's strike in chicago. is ron emmanuel at fault? >> because this is a strike of choice, and a strike that is unnecessary. >> how dare you do that to our children. what are you thinking about? >> cenk: that's a really
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interesting issue here, because it's a battle about teachers and teachers unions that affect so much, plus a fascinating account of how bin laden was killed. >> you were part of the team that killed osama bin laden and the first thing you do when you get back to the united states is go to taco bell? >> two tacos and a bean burrito. >> cenk: that's the fun part. but who actually killed bin laden? all of a sudden it's not that clear. you know what time it is, right. go time! ♪
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>> cenk: mitt romney took a tiny lead, and it wasn't much of a bump at all. at the democratic convention there was not a bump. 49-44. all of a sudden opening up a five-point lead for president obama. the swing states are the most important. we'll get polling on that soon as well, but it looks like there was definitely a bounce in the polls for president obama after the convention. during our coverage on current eliot spitzer predicted a four-point bump. i predicted five. vice president gore, six to eight. it looks like the democratic convention went off better than the republican one if you look at the polls. now that the conventions are over, mitt romney as usual getting himself in more and more trouble. so they're answering the question. you got to under something.
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mitt romney's tax plan is a disaster for the budget. it would create giant deficits. how can you say you can fight deficits if your plan creates bigger deficits. he says, no, no, i'm going to get rid of the loopholes. >> give me an example of a loophole that you'll close. >> romney: people at high end taxpayers will have fewer deductions and exemptions. those numbers will come down. >> i'm cutting tax on the rich massively, but some of the loopholes i might take away might come from the rich. now paul ryan, you're supposed to be the holy genius, you're going to have specific details about what loopholes you're closing. you're the guy who is brave and bold. >> don't voters have a right to know which loopholes you're going to go after. >> mitt romney and i based on our experience think the best
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way to do this is show the framework, show the out line and work the with congress to get these things done. >> isn't that a secret plan. >> no, no, what we don't want is a secret plan. what we don't want to do is cut some backroom deal like obama-care and then hack it to the country. >> why not say right now. >> because we want to have this--because we want this debate in the public. we want this debate with congress, and you want to do this with the consent of the elected representatives of the people. >> cenk: nonsense. here's why they won't tell you the loopholes. the minute they tell you i'm taking your home mortgage deduction and child tax credit, you'll flip out. you're right that does not take away from the rich but middle class. they get hurt the most. that's why they don't want to admit it. point number two when they tell you what loopholes they're closing, it's not enough any way. it will create giant deficits. that's why they don't want to tell you. that's why they're being weasels
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about it. am i clear enough? now i move on to healthcare. you heard paul ryan mention obama-care. how many times have you heard the republicans say we're taking away obama-care but the parts we're not taking away. here is what he said. >> romney: i'm not getting rid of all healthcare reform. there are parts that i like of healthcare reform. >> cenk: wait a minute. i thought you were taking care of all of obama--now you're going to keep part of it and then they pan panicked, and the campaign said, no, no, we're not going to cover existing conditions. and then the third flip flop. they said, wait, wait, what we meant was romney was saying before was that you were going to cover pre-existing conditions but only if you had continuous
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coverage. are we clear? no, you want both ways. you want to say you hate obama hair but then say the part that you love, trust me, we're going to keep it. here is mitt romney's position that after the 18th flip flops got back to, here he was in june. >> the law that we replace obama-care with assures people who have pre-existing condition who have been insured in the past are able to get insurance in the future so they don't have to worry about that condition keeping them from the kind of healthcare that they deserve. >> cenk: what they final by came back around is if you had continuous coverage, and you have a pre-existing condition then we'll cover it. there is already a law in the books that says that. if you don't have continuous coverage, you're out of luck. how many people does that apply to? 89 million people in the country. 36% of the u.s. population will not be covered if they have a pre-existing condition under romney's plan.
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don't let all this flip flopping distract you. that's the reality. he ain't covering pre-existing conditions. other than what is already in the law not even part of the so-called obama-care. these are epic issues. does anybody know who we would need to cover issues like this? [ ♪ music ♪ ] >> cenk: why michael it's good to have you back in the studio. >> good to be back with you cenk. first, before we go on to other news, it looks like the democratic convention worked, and right out of the gate, by the way, the romney campaign back to flubberring and blubbering. >> that's what they did in tampa. yes, the democratic convention worked. you knew it was going to work while you were there while you watched it. it was a very different building, as we talked abouted a nausea than the building in
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tampa. you had a feeling that it would carry to some degree. it carried to a tremendous degree. i think the republicans were disserved by the fact that the conventions were unusually close to one another. there were three days for them to realize a bump for the republicans. they were not going to get it because of the kind of convention they had but again there was no space for it. >> cenk: speaking of excitement, there was a pizza shop owner who was excited to see the president. >> this pizza shop owner he's a registered republican, saw the president. the president came in and he left what he was doing to get down to his pizza shop. he voted for obama in 2008. he's going to vote for him again. got so excited he grabbed the president and lifted him up. >> cenk: i think we got it on tape. let's watch. >> president obama in florida got a different kind of lift. the owner of a pizza shoplifting the president clear off the florida. the register republican telling
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the president he voted for him before and will again the kind of voter that both sides are fighting for. >> cenk: it seems like a fun little thing there, and it is, but i thought man, secret service must have been a little nervous about this. they checked with secret service before. then you realize wait a minute. he was a guy who was a register registered republican who voted for obama. none of this is a coincidence. >> we talk all the time from joe wilson screaming "you lie," and things that people do in this president that they wouldn't do to any other president. it was fun to watch, but someone actually lifted the president up. >> cenk: that's what i'm saying, i think the president's team loved it. >> i think they loved it, otherwise they wouldn't have stood by. after that point and once it's over i don't know what they would have done. >> cenk: but biden is with a bunch of bikers, and he tells a
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female bike for come in and politco-has this. apparently she's not sitting in his lap, although it looks like it. >> she's sitting in a chair in front of him. >> cenk: how great is that picture. >> joe biden when he first went to the senate took a 15-hour ride with a truck for see what a trucker's life is like from delaware to ohio, stopped at five different fuel stations, was greeted by different truckers there. the reason why he did it there was legislation about fuel and how it would effect truckers, he wanted to see what life was like for a trucker. the vice president had been a senator for 30 years there is something that is the real deal genuine article about joe biden. he proves it. again. it's a funny photograph, but he's able to read real people. >> cenk: i have a conspiracy theory, by the way. my first one of the night but not the last one. no one knows who those bikers are, and no one knows theirs names. they're probably wanted for
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something. >> or fake bikers. >> cenk: yes. romney had a sunday bite. >> going after china for currency manipulation. that's something that neither president obama or obama has done. balancing our budget, president bush nor president obama made steps on that front that i think need to be made. and number number five, champion be small business. that's critical. nothing that someone has spoken about that i can recall in quite awhile. >> cenk: he seems to be throwing president bush under the bus. is that a new strategy. >> it's a strategy that some republican is going to have to take. they'll have to distance themselves. john mccain ignored george bush. the problem with george bush is not going to go by ignoring him. voters, young voters and emerging groups like hispanic identify republican candidates and republicans in general with the eight years of the bush presidency. even the last four years of the bush presidency. i don't know if it's too little
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too late, it's probably a good strategy to say george bush is that guy. i'm this guy. >> cenk: the flip side is if you have to throw your former president under the bus it doesn't speak well of your party, and you're already on bad footing there. michael, a great analysis as usual. when we come back we have a huge strike in chicago. who is at fault. the deepers? rom emmanuel? >> for the first time in 25 years thousands of chicago teachers walked off the job and hit the picket lines. >> we're here, and we're going to stay together until we get a fair contract. >> cenk: there is a weird irony that mitt romney is standing with the former chief of staff. we'll tell you why that is happening. then i'd asked strip club owners in tampa if they were going to get more business when the republicans rolled in. we have the answer later in the program. >> cenk: are the republicans going to be worried that their
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family values assets are going to be tracked when they chatting with these girls? >>i jump out of my skin at people when i'm upset. do you share the sense of this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an understatement, eliot. u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa.
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>> they know if we back down now, they will take all our rights away. >> listen to the teachers. trust them. you have every reason to trust that they want a good solution. >> we know what it's like to stand up for your rights. [ cheering ] >> cenk: so this is a really hard issues because teachers all across the country are usually blamed for the state of education in america. i don't think that's fair. rom emmanuel is a guy who loves hitting--i say fellow liberal but i'm not sure if he is one. right now he's in the message with the teachers. let's go to ana kasparian. >> first let's talk about rom emmanuel. it's important to keep in mind that his children are receiving private education. >> cenk: of course they are. >> and he has been converting public schools into charter
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schools which are publicly funded and privately run. let's keep that in mind. let's take a look at the bigger picture. there are students and teachers involved in this strike. 26,000 teachers are striking and 400,000 students and parents are going to be affected by this. they're being sent to make-shift places to receive their education. they're going to libraries and churches and its affecting their education especially since it's the second week of school. now rom emmanuel is disappointed about i this strike. he feels its completely unnecessary for them to strike. >> i am disappointed that we have come to this point given that all the parties acknowledge how close we are because this is a strike of choice. and because of how close we are it is a strike that is unnecessary. >> now this were polls done that indicated that parents in chicago were very supportive of the unions prior to this strike, however, now that the strike is
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actually happening parents are understandably enraged. let's hear what one of them had to say. >> how dare you guys stop school in session how dare you do that to our children. what are you thinking about? not about them. >> now, cenk, there are three issues here that the teachers are striking about. one of them is compensation. and it's important to keep in mind that the school board promised a 4% pay increase last year. however they renig on that. rahm emmanuel said he came up with a compromise where he would increase their salary over the next four years. they are striking about laid-off teachers. they want the laid-off teachers to be rehired automatically when spots open up. and teacher evaluation. rahm emmanuel want 40% of evaluation to be done on standardized testing. the teachers think that is
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unfair because it's not an effective way of evaluating these teach sneezer let teachers. >> cenk: let me jump in on this. there are so many that is heaped on the teacher's unions. part of the crusade and everything that is wrong with education is the teachers, the teachers, it's all their fault. oftentimes conservative democrats like rahm emmanuel who offer a lot of donor money do the same thing. they play along with the republicans, it's the teachers. he ran on, i'm going to do reform of the schools etc. you can tell i'm not that splat. it's good that the teachers are fighting back. i've never liked rahm emmanuel, let me be clear about that, because he's one of the most conservative democrats in the country and a wolf in sheep's clothing. he comes in here and says i'm going to give a big raise.
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just kiddingic i'm not going to give you a big raids. 4%? no, i'm not going to give that you 4% either. if i was the teachers i would be pissed. on the issue of evaluation. of course the teachers need to be evaluateeled. the question is how. >> right, there are a lot of things to keep in mind. i'm more torn on this issue than you are. when you look at the deficit within the school district they're facing $656 million budget shortfall. they have underfunded pension and it's a huge disaster. >> cenk: first of all, the teachers did not create the deficit. and second of ram rahm emmanuel said he was going to increase the hours of the school. then he says i'm going to increase the hours and not pay you more because of the deficit. >> i should note, rahm emmanuel
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said you don't want to work longer. we'll hire teachers who will work in non-core subjects, physical activity, music art subjects like that so teachers continue to work seven hours a day. they'll receive a significant pay increase. but what they're disagreeing here is the evaluations. it's very unfair for the teachers. it seems like the teachers don't want to be evaluated. that's far from the truth. they are willing to be evaluated, but it's unfair to evaluate them based on standardized testing. there are so many students who are brilliantan but the standardize testing did not show their true brilliants. i was one of them. i did horrible on standardized testing. it does not show a student's talent as soon as and by the way you had a stellar gpa. it doesn't capture it. they say you want me to compete
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with the guys in suburbs put but they have a tremendous amount of resources. we share books and we don't have those resources and then you blame us for it. the larger problem is blaming the teachers for everything. on the micro issue people can disagree on what happened here. on the macro-picture, i think it's a pleasure to see teachers fighting back. one last final irony rahm emmanuel coming out saying, can you believe what the damn teachers are doing? they should support the mayor. that's in he is essential that's what he's saying. just when you thought couldn't get any weirder on the campaign, we're have having in mitt romney-backed rahm emmanuel. when we come back, the bin laden story. who killed him? it's fairly unclear even though there was a giant "60 minutes" story last night 37.
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a said he was going to be an aggressive progressive when he was giving the state of union address. he said this about the banks. >> we'll establish a financial crimes unit of highly investigators to crackdown on fraud and protect people's investments. this you want will hold accountable those who broke the law, speed assistance to
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homeowners and help turn the page on an error of recklessness that hurt so many americans. >> cenk: or maybe it won't. it was called the residential mortgage working group. three months in they did not even have office space and they were not getting the staff that they needed. shocking that tim geithner's department would not help in this cause. how weird, i did not see this coming but i did and i called it on this show, the online show and every other show. now we have this news. >> cenk: now the excuse that they always use is these cases
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are always hard to prove. let me report another story. >> cenk: in other words, they knew it was junk. do you know what's know what that's called? tim geithner, look it up--it's called fraud. there will be no criminal investigation whatsoever. they might do civil investigations later. there is a word i use to describe an event that was this obvious. it's called--of course! of course they're not going to do any criminal investigations. they had one against bear-sterns, no convictions whatsoever. they have no interest in going after the
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